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Casey Cagle on The 2008 Session!

It is almost the end of the 2008 legislative session. This interview with Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle touches upon the variety of content the legislature sampled in this election year. For example:

The demise of the Speaker’s Great Tax Plan.
The proposal to spur the economy with a 10% income tax cut.
The austerity cuts in the 2009 budget.
The Water Wars, Lake Lanier and The Corps of Engineers.
Efforts to develop alternative energy sources.

and of course,

The efforts to retake Georgia from Tennessee.

Alan Essig on the Speaker’s Property Tax Reform Proposal

Alan Essig of the Georgia Budget and Policy Institute is my go to guy when I want to try to get to the bottom of something that involves taxes or budgets. In this interveiw Alan comments on Speaker Glenn Richardson’s proposal to eliminate the property tax.

The curious thing is that there is no substance to the proposal, it’s just all talk–at least right now–and that is what bothers me. You would think that when it came to something this important, there would be an effort to give everyone enough time and information to make a reasonable decision. Alan said he would like no less than 3 to 6 months to study any proposal and run the numbers. My bet: he won’t get that much time and neither will anyone else, including those guys we elected to represent us.

Alan says that every state in the union has a property tax. For Georgia to think it can become the first to eliminate it in one fell swoop, seems irresponsible to me. Alan mentions the fact that a few years ago one of those northern states, Michigan, I think, enacted sweeping rollbacks in property taxation and almost went bankrupt when there was a blimp in the economy.

Also, the State levies only a small property tax, like .5 mil. The majority of the property tax is levied and controlled by local cities, counties and school boards. It is where they get their operating budgets, their power. Eliminating property taxes is going to eliminate a lot of local power. Now why would a state legislator, even one serving as Speaker, be in such a hurry to eliminate the foundations of local power and transfer that power to the State, particularly the leaders thereof? I understand all the local governments and their organizations, like GMA, oppose the Speaker’s plan.

The real question is where is the additional money going to come from? Property taxes account for about 8 to 10 billion in tax collections. So where are you going to get that kind of money? As I understand it, the Speaker initially proposed to just eliminate all (or most) exemptions to the sales tax. According to Alan, two of those exemptions need to be kept: (1) governmental purchases, and (2) business to business purchases. And these two exemptions account for $5 billion in exemptions. The point: if you keep just these two exemptions in place, there is no way the sales tax can make up the tax revenue lost by the elimination of the property tax.

Now if I were planning a budget, I would conclude game over, you can’t eliminate property taxes and make up the difference in sales taxes. But there he is, Speaker Richardson, going around the state pumping up the landed gentry and making this sound like it is a walk in the park–a tax exempt park, no doubt.

There is only one thing to be accomplished by the elimination of property taxes. Rich folk that own a lot (and I mean a lot) of property will get a tax break. The rest of us that don’t own tons of rental property or commercial property or anything much more than our homes, that just work at a job everyday for a living, that have kids and buy everything on the shelves, will pay more in taxes–sales taxes.

Let me predict the future. The Speaker (more likely, someone else at his direction) will drop the bill to eliminate the property tax a week or so before the 2008 legislature begins. The Speaker will flex his muscles, threaten a few recalcitrants, and ultimately his power will make sure the proposal (whatever it is) sails thru the House with little or no hearings and none worth a damn. Then, it’s over to the Senate where the question will be whether or not Lt. Governor Casey Cagle (or some other Republican leader with the guts to “just say no”) is man enough to tell the Speaker to go back to the country club and kill this kind of cram it down your throat leglislative initiative. You have my vote Casey!

Think I am nuts! Look down the road to the 2010 gubernatorial elections. Will it be the Speaker who single handledly eliminated the property tax and saved 500 Georgians a ton of money versus the Lt. Gov. who protected Georgians from the selfish impulses of power and kept the property tax in place?

Interview with James Williams, GriftDrift on Voter ID Ruling and Property Tax Reform

Just last week, September 6th, U. S. District Court Judge Murphy, ruled in the Voter ID/Photo ID litigation that has been going on since 2005. Judge Murphy didn’t get around to deciding the issue of whether or not the law was constitutional. Instead, he found that the plaintiffs in the case (two individual voters and a bunch of organizations like Common Cause, the League of Women Voters and the NAACP) did not have standing to complain about the law.

While James and I may differ on whether or not the Court should have found that the plaintiffs had “standing,” we agree this was one of those pieces of legislation that was passed for purely political reasons, was totatlly unnecessary and had nothing to do with voter fraud–which essentially doesn’t exist at the polling booth.

I think I lost the battle of logic versus emotion to James because of his bottom line: If this law prevents people from voting, why couldn’t the plaintiffs find someone that it would actually prevent from voting? Good question, James! But I still don’t like the law! But what do I know, I’m only a lawyer!

Having lost that battle, we then get into Speaker Richardson’s plan to do away with the property tax at the 2008 session. I think we both agree that getting this accomplished is going to be war: Local government versus State government.

I can’t wait for 2008!

Interview with Tommie Williams, (R-19), Senate Majority Leader

If this interview with Tommie Williams is any indication, the next legislative session is going to be interesting, very interesting! Not only are they going to have to come up with a Water Plan (in the first 20 days), they are going to make a run at the biggest tax reform (the elimination of the property tax) this State has probably seen since Reconstruction. Add to that transportation (privately built and operated highways, I mean, toll roads and trolleys on Peachtree), reform of the state employees health care (no deductible, pay the second $500 out of your pocket), and it sounds more and more like 40 days and 40 nights.

A correction. In a post from a recent interview with Gordon Rogers (Satilla Riverkeeper), I said that in an earlier interview this summer Tommie had indicated that the legislature had appropriated $20M to developing a water plan of its on. Gordon said he was not aware of such. I straightened this out in this interview. Its $100,000, not $20M.

Tommie obviously has a lot of problems with the Water Plan proposed by the Water Council and my bet is the legislature is not going to let it go into effect. Whether they come up with their own plan (I doubt) or just change the law (so the plan does not go into effect by default), I expect they will do something. The issue is just too important.

Tommie seems to support for the idea of letting private companies finance the costs of building some major roads, in return for which, upon completion, they lease the road from the state in return for the right to collect a toll on the road. According to Tommie, this would allow more of the $1.5 billion highway pie to go to rural and south Georgia. I understand the principle, but the first thought that pops into my mind is the memory of $750 hammers.

If you think this is a novel idea, think again. Ever heard of a turnpike? Pennsylvania chartered the first in 1792. By 1800 there were 69 chartered companies building toll roads. I found a paper comparing the modern efffort at privately built roads with the old one.

I am not sure where I have been, but apparently this idea of privately built roads has been growing since the 1990′s, if not before. The trend is in full swing in other states.

I would think very few private businesses can afford to finance road construction. Whoever puts that financing together has got to have some serious cash or credit, not to mention power, and with it will come that much more money and power. I hate to even think about the possibilities for abuse and corruption.

If state government can increase revenues by not spending money to build a road and then increase them again in leasing the road once it is built, is the next step to sell existing roads to private business to bring in even more revenue? Ask Virginia!

As for the elimination of the property tax, this stands a good chance of being the most contentious issue the legislature deals with. While I am all for an overhaul of the way we assess and collect taxes, both on the state and the federal level, I do not understand this focus on property taxes. According to the Tax Foundation, in 2006 Georgia collected $75M in property taxes, 23rd in the nation. This was .4% of the total taxes collected by the State. I assume this figure does not include local property tax collections because, according to the Tax Foundation, state and local tax property tax collections in 2005 was $899 per capita, a rank of 33rd in the nation.

Since most property taxes are collected and used on a local level, many people see this effort to eliminate property taxes as an effort by the state legislature to grab power by controlling the money local governments need. Right now, if you think your property taxes are too high, that is a fairly local issue and you can go to the next meeting of the county commission and gripe your heart out. But, if property taxes are eliminated, instead of talking to a small group of politicians down at the courthouse, you will have to try to pin down the Atlanta bureaucrats and, I can assure you, you will never have the power to get anything changed. And what if your county does something the powers in the state legislature don’t like (such as electing a Democrat), will power be used and abused?

I am somewhat more cynical in viewing the reason behind the elimination of property taxes. I don’t see this as an attempt to be fair. It is essentially an effort to reduce the tax burden of the rich and place it on consumers. The rich get richer and the working man pays more and more of the tax burden. Now if you want to exempt residences of people over 65 who live on a limited income, fine with me.

Real estate, commercial and residential, uses expensive county services (fire, police, water). How on earth do you justify making the family buying bread at Walmart pay for services received by the property owner collecting $10,000 a month in rent at a strip mall? You pay for what you get. You get local services, you pay for local services, you pay your fair share of property taxes, you don’t make families pay for your free ride.

I don’t think this effort will succeed.

Interview with Jason Pye, Blogger and Political Commentator

Jason Pye, Blogger and Political Commentator, tells us why he is disappointed with the 2007 Legislature. Listen and get Jason’s take on tax reform, transportation and a whole bunch more.

Interview with David Sjoquist, Director of the Fiscal Research Center at the Andrew Young School of Policy Studies

David Sjoquist, Director of the Fiscal Research Center at the Andrew Young School of Policy Studies, provides great insight into all the talk about Georgia Tax Reform, income tax, sales tax, property tax. Listen and appreciate the challenge the legislature faces to overhaul the state tax system.

Interview with Bill Bozarth, Executive Director of Common Cause of Georgia

Bill Bozarth, Executive Director of Common Cause of Georgia, talks about the power brokers in the 2007 legislature, including the newly bestowed powers on the Lt. Gov, Casey Cagle. We also discuss the prospects for Voter ID, Tax Reform, Court Packing and other issues.

Interview with Jerry Keen, Rep. District 179 (Glynn Co.) and House Majority Leader

Jerry Keen, Rep. District 179 (Glynn Co.) and House Majority Leader, discusses issues of healthcare, trauma centers and the possibility of doing away with the Georgia Income Tax in the session of the legislature.

Interview with Danny Orock, Legislative Coordinator for Georgia Watch

Danny Orock, Legislative Coordinator for Georgia Watch, tells us about issues which may be hot in the 2007 session of the Georgia Legislature. For example, the elimination of the income tax, changes in the procedure for the election of judges, water rights, identity theft, stream buffers for developments. It is going to be a fun session.

Interview with Garrett Hayes, Libertarian candidate for Governor

Garrett Hayes, Libertarian candidate for Governor, discusses his proposals for education, immigration and taxation.